Bite me.....

[thehornshoppe]

Well, what I get from this is that there is no actual  proof of effectiveness because the "studies" were flawed. No control group? is that what I read?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/science-behind-masking-in-schools-under-debate

Do people that wear masks have any idea how insanely nasty they get in a short time? Then they wear the same one, go to wally world and touch everything in sight while they are fiddling with the thing. There is nothing sanitary or protective about them given the way people use them. But hey, if it makes them feel "safe" by wearing a nasty muzzle and then spreading whatever filth is on it all over by touching it, go for it. Mental illness is a terrible thing. I shudder to think how many sheeple are absolutely terrified they will die and the lengths they will go to do useless things to "be safe".
Ed

[TEA FOR ONE]

I am a covid survivor.  I have three pretty significant health issues. I have had 2 heart attacks,3 stents,diabetes,and an autoimmune disease.  I was certain that if I got this,I was dead. My wife came down with symptoms,but for a day or so wrote them off as allergies. I didn't think much of it,until she told me she had just came back from urgent care,and tested positive. I immediately had to leave work,and quarantine. This was a Thursday morning. I felt fine. Friday went by,no issues. Woke up Saturday,went outside,cut the lawn and other assorted yard work. Saturday evening I started to feel like I was coming down with something. I woke up Sunday with a very low grade fever,and took a home covid test,it came back negative. Meanwhile,going back to Friday,my wife finds an online doctor that prescribes her mess. Ivermectin,hyrooxy,zinc,and a zpak. She was SICK. Bad headache,fever,body aches,couldn't get out of bed. She starts the meds on Friday evening. By Sunday,fever is gone,headache is gone. She's out of bed moving around a bit. She's getting better.

    Now we're back to Monday. I go to sleep in our finished basement,and wake up about 3am Tuesday morning with a fever of 102.7. I take 3 Tylenol,and by 6am,the fever is under control. About 8:30 I go to urgent care,I test positive. My wife reaches out to the online doctors again,this time for me. Because of the time that has passed,I get Ivermectin,and zinc,and some sort of inhaler. I start taking the meds Thursday evening. By Saturday morning,the only thing left is fatigue. Bad fatigue. Thie fatigue lasts about 3 weeks or so.

   At no time did I think I would die. Not once! I've had worse flu's. The thing that I find very perplexing,is that there ARE treatments,and the media,the government keep saying that there aren't. THEY ARE LYING.  WHY???

[thehornshoppe]

PLEASE, tell us the Ivermectin dose. I can not find that info.

Very glad to hear you and the wife are fine. As expected.
Ed
ps....of course I am asking out of curiosity, not that I would assume you'd be promoting it and suggesting it. "Just the facts, ma'am".

[sonic]

there ARE treatments,and the media,the government keep saying that there aren't. THEY ARE LYING.  WHY???

They are and it's all for the opportunity to scare citizens to submission.  Once again, the socialist's mantra, never let a crisis go to waste.  Fear is a very powerful tool when it comes to controlling people and they've been using it for eons.  This viral spread is no different.  There are parts of this country that banned the use of hydroxychloroquine based on flawed study (by Lancet) which was retracted due to its lack of objectivity but the ban remains.  Those who could have been alive if hydroxychloroquine (been in use for over 60 years) wasn't banned are basically murder victims.  Those a$$holes who decided to ban it on Covid-19 patients should face lawsuit. 

[TEA FOR ONE]

The dose I show is 5x3mg a day,for 5 days. I think they may be recommending a higher dose now. This was prescribed in early May.

[sonic]

There is an article released by FDA which yahoo news linked to that says Ivermectin for animal use is different from Ivermectin for people use.  TEA FOR ONE, is the ingredients different or is it just dosage?

[TEA FOR ONE]

I believe just the dosage.

[Capt. Z]

Tea for Two; I am glad you and your wife made it through without too many issues.

Like you am probably also a Covid Survivor, since I also was exposed to a person with Covid that lives with us. Thankfully my Immune system was strong enough to fight it off without ever having any symptoms. Other folks in our family had slight symptoms.

But I also have several friends who have contracted Covid and have died, even though they have been given The meds. Then I also have friends that have become Longhaulers, meaning, they had suffered or are still suffering from the damage Covid has caused in their body. Some of them will NEVER EVER be able to live a normal life again.

Many moons ago, I used to be an RN when I still lived in Germany, so I know a little about infections, contamination and treatments. So yes Ed, I agree with you. Most people breath in their own bacterias and viruses, while cross contaminating their mask. It all comes down to knowing a little about contamination and cross contamination AND using your brain, which seems to be lacking in many people.

Also, you can not give the same meds and dosis to every one that is infected. It all has to be tailored to each individual patient, his level of sickness, size of body, existing illnesses etc etc.

Lets hope and pray that this craziness will find an end soon.

I am coming to the US in a few weeks for a few weeks and I am afraid meeting people, since their are many times neglecting simple preclusión in this pandemic. But then I like to see family and experience a litte of life in America again.

[sonic]

even though they have been given The meds.

What were the meds?

[Capt. Z]

even though they have been given The meds.

What were the meds?

What kind o question is that?

Do you really think that they would have publicized the exact med Cocktail to the public? And even if they did, do you really expect me to remember that, just so you can down talk it?

[thehornshoppe]

Capt., you stated the exact PROBLEM. All of the meds that could/may and CAN help are not being made available and any mention of them gets you banned from social media. Why do you think that is? There is NOTHING wrong with revealing the meds a person is taking to help stop DEATH. A buddy just got over it. His wife takes hydroxy for Lupus. Wanna bet if she gets it she will shrug it off? All I have to do is ask her her dose, then look up the LD 50/50 and I can make a good guess as to what is safe. I'll give you 10 to 1 she never gets it and if she does she will not know it. I never gamble.

I have a bottle of Ivermectin, I can source hydroxy, ditto Zinc and the other "taboo" ones. So how is it a good idea to withhold dosage estimates for my weight and age? is it not MY CHOICE to experiment on MY BODY?

We are being lied to, manipulated and our country is being destroyed by the communists in charge.

D. you should thank GOD you were not in Afghanistan when the senile POS decided to pull all the milittary out, leave all our weapons and abandon all our citizens. That is EXACTLY what the traitor did and is doing.

He wants to disarm Americans but yet left by most estimates 600,000 small arms for the taliban. We were energy independent under Pres. Trump for the first time in over 50 years and he destroyed that in the first week. He shut our pipeline down and ALLOWED Putin to build the one in Germany that Pres. Trump stopped.  The POS shit just BEGGED OPEC to increase production because of our gas prices. What a fucking traitor, he has DESTROYED OUR oil industry and is now begging our enemies for oil. He is a traitor and he has committed acts of treason. How about Hunter? He is a drug addict, criminal and has sold out the US many times. Swalwell was FUCKING a Chinese spy and yet HE is the one who has accused Pres Trump of nothing but made up lies. He is on the "intelligence committee". How is that possible? Because the communists have taken over the dimocrat party and the sheeple that vote for them are too stupid to see it.

We are fucked with these motherfuckers in charge.

[sonic]

What kind o question is that?

Do you really think that they would have publicized the exact med Cocktail to the public? And even if they did, do you really expect me to remember that, just so you can down talk it?

Did you see TEA FOR ONE's reply listing meds and the dosage above?  That's the kind of Q & A I was expecting.  If several friends of yours who have died from Covid despite given the meds, didn't you talk to them or their family member before?  I asked because I was curious since the meds I mentioned above have high success rate.  Was it not hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin?

[sonic]

any mention of them gets you banned from social media. Why do you think that is?

Orwell's 1984 is here.  The Marxists are in power and have been but now the big-tech brothers have joined in at synchronized timing back in January and this forum was one of the victims.  History repeats (those who aren't familiar, look up Kristallnacht).

[Capt. Z]

any mention of them gets you banned from social media. Why do you think that is?

Orwell's 1984 is here.  The Marxists are in power and have been but now the big-tech brothers have joined in at synchronized timing back in January and this forum was one of the victims.  History repeats (those who aren't familiar, look up Kristallnacht).

I know exactly what the Kristallnacht is/was, as that is part of my ancestor history.

We learn from History that we don't learn from History.

And history repeats itself over and over again.

I am interested in how the Kristallnacht fits into your situation in the US. Please enlighten me.

[sonic]

Please enlighten me.

I will but after you (on the meds given to your unfortunate friends).