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General Category => Politics => Topic started by: thehornshoppe on June 20, 2021, 08:02:04 PM
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Man, that "bite me" is one tough dude. Did y'all see how he had Putin quaking in his boots when he gave him that list of 16 things not to hack. Man, I bet that did the trick! The "trick" being telling our enemies EXACTLY what to hack. I feel so much safer with him in charge of the border and destroying our ability to be energy independent again. What was Pres. Trump thinking when he made us that way and we were exporting oil instead of buying it from our enemies. Shutting down the pipeline, Anwar and trying to stop fracking. It was pure brilliance and allowing Russia to build theirs in Germany was just genius.
We are in deep shit boys......but don't worry Kameltoe has the border under control.
Ed
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Ed, I was concerned. No Biden jabs all year when there were low-hanging fruits to harvest.
I guess the most concerning part of this give-a-way, squash enterprise movement is the affect on those pesky tiny gnats like inflation and global presence. I lived through Jimmy Carter's assault on America. Try graduating college and getting any job in 1978-1979. All the while, what little side employment you were able to obtain was significantly compromised by double digit inflation. I wish I could had attained the position of converting road signs to metric standards. ;D
Lord have mercy...
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Now that the political forum is back on this site, I wonder if the big tech is watching us again... ???
As for Joke Biden's moves, I think everything he does in public is devised by his advisors. In this case, literally everything.
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Ain't it cool how the Taliban turned 3 months into 3 days? Now that's progress and production!
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I think this is all one big distraction,to keep everyone from seeing what's going on in our very own backyard.
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I think this is all one big distraction,to keep everyone from seeing what's going on in our very own backyard.
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^ Crisis at our southern border and exploitation of Covid scamdemic.
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^ Crisis at our southern border and exploitation of Covid scamdemic.
Sorry Sonic if I ask, but in what world are you living in?
Scandemic?
One of the largest humanitarian catastrophes a distraction?
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I can't speak for Sonic, but here in the good ol' US, COVID does seem to be a political football. One example is the southern border crisis where COVID is pretty much ignored and illegal immigrants are dispersed into the interior without mandatory vaccination or adequate testing.
Another is the push to let deadbeat tenants squat on properties owned by landlords that haven't seen rent payments for many months. The rights of the owners are and have been trampled upon and the govt. seems to not care if these folks can pay property taxes, insurance, mortgages, maintenance, etc. Employers are begging for workers, but many people would rather live rent free and collect stimulus checks. There are zero incentives to get off the couch and work.
Speaking of "free govt. money"... I filed my income tax on-time electronically last spring and my return is simple. My retirement income is modest, but adequate (I'm not wealthy). The IRS claimed the return should be processed in 21 days. I, and others, are waiting for refund checks/deposits, but the explanation we get is that the govt. is giving priority to processing COVID checks. So, I can't get my refund nor can I get the COVID money because my tax return is "pending". The same thing happened in 2020. They assure me that if I don't get the COVID money, I can write it off of my 2021 taxes (like I did this year). I was planning to use the money to pay my house property tax and insurance.
Okay, I have whined enough. :'(
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Sorry Sonic if I ask, but in what world are you living in?
Scandemic?
One of the largest humanitarian catastrophes a distraction?
Scamdemic is the term I borrowed from Ed and it's a description of how this crisis is being exploited by certain politicians to further their political agenda, sadly.
As for what the distraction is, henry posted the speed of Taliban's takeover, then TEA FOR ONE suspected it being a distraction to cover up what's going on in our very own backyard, then you responded with "Huh" emoji as in not sure what he means. Yes, here in the USA, there are very serious events happening that will affect 330 million people in bad ways. That's about 10 times the number of Afghanistan population.
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Well, it is a scamdemic if one pays attention to THE DATA AND SCIENCE. Kids do not get, transmit easily or die from it but yet they have to wear a fucking "face covering" which not a single SCIENTIFIC study has show to do anything at all.?
Why did no one die of the Flu last year. Why do they count ANY death a "covid death" if the person happens to have had it when they ran off the road on the motorcycle, Which actually happened it was found out.
Masks do not do a fucking thing to protect you or anyone else. A "vaccine" is "supposed" to protect YOU from getting the illness forever, that is what a "vaccine" is. . So why would you care, if vaccinated if I have one (mask) on or not? Why would you wear one. Uh, because it's all a lie. People who are getting the vaccine are STILL getting sick, a fact. Only not "as sick" the folks who have not had the vaccine "they" tell us. Really, where is the science on that? yet we are to believe these same people who lie about masks are telling the truth about anything?
Follow the money....my Mom took Hydroxy for YEARS for Lupus. But when it might help with covid and you say that you were banned...."they" said 'it's not safe" . FUCKING LIARS....it's been used for decades for Lupus and other things. A buddy is getting over it now. His wife is on Hydroxy for...wait for it....lupus. has been for years. She has had no symptoms at all.
That's just the beginning of the lies.....
Mandatory mask rules are simply.... COMPLIANCE TRAINING FOR THE SHEEPLE. All of the people pushing them know it, they do not wear them, they know the truth but there are enough sheeple that don't to make them seem sane. they are not. They are evil and they don't give a fuck about anything but power and control.
Ed
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Love that image! ;D
This humanoid breed called sheeple, have been increasing in numbers lately. I'm not sure if it's only in the USA or global event but it's not good.
We'll see how California governor recall process turns out. It will give us some indication of the future of USA.
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Here's the fda.gov website explanation regarding the effectiveness of masks:
Q: Do face masks provide protection from coronavirus?
A: Masks may help prevent people who have COVID-19 from spreading the virus to others. The CDC has guidance for wearing masks. Wearing a face mask may limit exposure to respiratory droplets and large particles and may help prevent people who have COVID-19 from spreading the virus.
So, that's quite a departure from the story we hear from the CDC and other governmental bodies. The fda stops short of saying masks are effective for the healthy person on the receiving end of a cough.
This makes sense to me. Think about it, surgical masks worn by OR doctors are there to protect the patients, not the other way around.
Thinking that a crude, ill-fitting mask having air infiltration around the perimeter will protect someone from viruses is wishful thinking.
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Hey Henry;
Think of the mask being more of a difusor then a protector. The virus is way to small to be blocked by the material of any mask, no matter which one you use. But what it does, it directs the majority of the air we breath out to the side, and up and down our face, instead straight ahead. Plus it holds back most of those 'droplets' of moisture we breath out, which carry the majority of all kinds of bacterias and viruses.
Best way to protect ourselves from Covid 19: DISTANCE to the next person, 1.5 - 2 meters min.
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Last fall, CDC released the stats on those who contracted Covid-19 and over 70% of constant mask wearers contracted it. Say goodbye to mask when it comes to protection against Covid virus. The best protection against it is our immune system, just like other respiratory viruses.
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Well, what I get from this is that there is no actual proof of effectiveness because the "studies" were flawed. No control group? is that what I read?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/science-behind-masking-in-schools-under-debate
Do people that wear masks have any idea how insanely nasty they get in a short time? Then they wear the same one, go to wally world and touch everything in sight while they are fiddling with the thing. There is nothing sanitary or protective about them given the way people use them. But hey, if it makes them feel "safe" by wearing a nasty muzzle and then spreading whatever filth is on it all over by touching it, go for it. Mental illness is a terrible thing. I shudder to think how many sheeple are absolutely terrified they will die and the lengths they will go to do useless things to "be safe".
Ed
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I am a covid survivor. I have three pretty significant health issues. I have had 2 heart attacks,3 stents,diabetes,and an autoimmune disease. I was certain that if I got this,I was dead. My wife came down with symptoms,but for a day or so wrote them off as allergies. I didn't think much of it,until she told me she had just came back from urgent care,and tested positive. I immediately had to leave work,and quarantine. This was a Thursday morning. I felt fine. Friday went by,no issues. Woke up Saturday,went outside,cut the lawn and other assorted yard work. Saturday evening I started to feel like I was coming down with something. I woke up Sunday with a very low grade fever,and took a home covid test,it came back negative. Meanwhile,going back to Friday,my wife finds an online doctor that prescribes her mess. Ivermectin,hyrooxy,zinc,and a zpak. She was SICK. Bad headache,fever,body aches,couldn't get out of bed. She starts the meds on Friday evening. By Sunday,fever is gone,headache is gone. She's out of bed moving around a bit. She's getting better.
Now we're back to Monday. I go to sleep in our finished basement,and wake up about 3am Tuesday morning with a fever of 102.7. I take 3 Tylenol,and by 6am,the fever is under control. About 8:30 I go to urgent care,I test positive. My wife reaches out to the online doctors again,this time for me. Because of the time that has passed,I get Ivermectin,and zinc,and some sort of inhaler. I start taking the meds Thursday evening. By Saturday morning,the only thing left is fatigue. Bad fatigue. Thie fatigue lasts about 3 weeks or so.
At no time did I think I would die. Not once! I've had worse flu's. The thing that I find very perplexing,is that there ARE treatments,and the media,the government keep saying that there aren't. THEY ARE LYING. WHY???
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PLEASE, tell us the Ivermectin dose. I can not find that info.
Very glad to hear you and the wife are fine. As expected. :)
Ed
ps....of course I am asking out of curiosity, not that I would assume you'd be promoting it and suggesting it. "Just the facts, ma'am". :)
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there ARE treatments,and the media,the government keep saying that there aren't. THEY ARE LYING. WHY???
They are and it's all for the opportunity to scare citizens to submission. Once again, the socialist's mantra, never let a crisis go to waste. Fear is a very powerful tool when it comes to controlling people and they've been using it for eons. This viral spread is no different. There are parts of this country that banned the use of hydroxychloroquine based on flawed study (by Lancet) which was retracted due to its lack of objectivity but the ban remains. Those who could have been alive if hydroxychloroquine (been in use for over 60 years) wasn't banned are basically murder victims. Those a$$holes who decided to ban it on Covid-19 patients should face lawsuit.
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The dose I show is 5x3mg a day,for 5 days. I think they may be recommending a higher dose now. This was prescribed in early May.
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There is an article released by FDA which yahoo news linked to that says Ivermectin for animal use is different from Ivermectin for people use. TEA FOR ONE, is the ingredients different or is it just dosage?
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I believe just the dosage.
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Tea for Two; I am glad you and your wife made it through without too many issues.
Like you am probably also a Covid Survivor, since I also was exposed to a person with Covid that lives with us. Thankfully my Immune system was strong enough to fight it off without ever having any symptoms. Other folks in our family had slight symptoms.
But I also have several friends who have contracted Covid and have died, even though they have been given The meds. Then I also have friends that have become Longhaulers, meaning, they had suffered or are still suffering from the damage Covid has caused in their body. Some of them will NEVER EVER be able to live a normal life again.
Many moons ago, I used to be an RN when I still lived in Germany, so I know a little about infections, contamination and treatments. So yes Ed, I agree with you. Most people breath in their own bacterias and viruses, while cross contaminating their mask. It all comes down to knowing a little about contamination and cross contamination AND using your brain, which seems to be lacking in many people.
Also, you can not give the same meds and dosis to every one that is infected. It all has to be tailored to each individual patient, his level of sickness, size of body, existing illnesses etc etc.
Lets hope and pray that this craziness will find an end soon.
I am coming to the US in a few weeks for a few weeks and I am afraid meeting people, since their are many times neglecting simple preclusión in this pandemic. But then I like to see family and experience a litte of life in America again.
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even though they have been given The meds.
What were the meds?
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even though they have been given The meds.
What were the meds?
What kind o question is that?
Do you really think that they would have publicized the exact med Cocktail to the public? And even if they did, do you really expect me to remember that, just so you can down talk it?
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Capt., you stated the exact PROBLEM. All of the meds that could/may and CAN help are not being made available and any mention of them gets you banned from social media. Why do you think that is? There is NOTHING wrong with revealing the meds a person is taking to help stop DEATH. A buddy just got over it. His wife takes hydroxy for Lupus. Wanna bet if she gets it she will shrug it off? All I have to do is ask her her dose, then look up the LD 50/50 and I can make a good guess as to what is safe. I'll give you 10 to 1 she never gets it and if she does she will not know it. I never gamble.
I have a bottle of Ivermectin, I can source hydroxy, ditto Zinc and the other "taboo" ones. So how is it a good idea to withhold dosage estimates for my weight and age? is it not MY CHOICE to experiment on MY BODY?
We are being lied to, manipulated and our country is being destroyed by the communists in charge.
D. you should thank GOD you were not in Afghanistan when the senile POS decided to pull all the milittary out, leave all our weapons and abandon all our citizens. That is EXACTLY what the traitor did and is doing.
He wants to disarm Americans but yet left by most estimates 600,000 small arms for the taliban. We were energy independent under Pres. Trump for the first time in over 50 years and he destroyed that in the first week. He shut our pipeline down and ALLOWED Putin to build the one in Germany that Pres. Trump stopped. The POS shit just BEGGED OPEC to increase production because of our gas prices. What a fucking traitor, he has DESTROYED OUR oil industry and is now begging our enemies for oil. He is a traitor and he has committed acts of treason. How about Hunter? He is a drug addict, criminal and has sold out the US many times. Swalwell was FUCKING a Chinese spy and yet HE is the one who has accused Pres Trump of nothing but made up lies. He is on the "intelligence committee". How is that possible? Because the communists have taken over the dimocrat party and the sheeple that vote for them are too stupid to see it.
We are fucked with these motherfuckers in charge.
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What kind o question is that?
Do you really think that they would have publicized the exact med Cocktail to the public? And even if they did, do you really expect me to remember that, just so you can down talk it?
Did you see TEA FOR ONE's reply listing meds and the dosage above? That's the kind of Q & A I was expecting. If several friends of yours who have died from Covid despite given the meds, didn't you talk to them or their family member before? I asked because I was curious since the meds I mentioned above have high success rate. Was it not hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin?
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any mention of them gets you banned from social media. Why do you think that is?
Orwell's 1984 is here. The Marxists are in power and have been but now the big-tech brothers have joined in at synchronized timing back in January and this forum was one of the victims. History repeats (those who aren't familiar, look up Kristallnacht).
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any mention of them gets you banned from social media. Why do you think that is?
Orwell's 1984 is here. The Marxists are in power and have been but now the big-tech brothers have joined in at synchronized timing back in January and this forum was one of the victims. History repeats (those who aren't familiar, look up Kristallnacht).
I know exactly what the Kristallnacht is/was, as that is part of my ancestor history.
We learn from History that we don't learn from History.
And history repeats itself over and over again.
I am interested in how the Kristallnacht fits into your situation in the US. Please enlighten me.
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Please enlighten me.
I will but after you (on the meds given to your unfortunate friends).
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Please enlighten me.
I will but after you (on the meds given to your unfortunate friends).
Do you want me to go back to my friends and ask them what meds they got???
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If my memory serves, you posted about losing some of your friends to Covid-19 on the old forum before the big tech cancelled it because it had political views they didn't like. That was you, right, Capt. Z?
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If my memory serves, you posted about losing some of your friends to Covid-19 on the old forum before the big tech cancelled it because it had political views they didn't like. That was you, right, Capt. Z?
That is right.
So I assume that you see that I take this Corona stuff not very lightly. And due to my medical background I have issues if people make some #$%^ comments on cures and etc, and especially when people downplay the seriousness of the issue. If I were still in the medical field, there could be a good chance that I would be in the middle of helping the Nay-Sayers, while they are laying in Intensive care, fighting for their life, while I am risking my own life to help them.
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That is right.
So I assume that you see that I take this Corona stuff not very lightly.
Thank you for your straight answer. At the time you posted about your lost friends, Ed and I brought up the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine + zinc which were banned for use on Covid-19 patients in some parts of the world even though those are cheap safe drugs and have been in use for over 60 years. Ed and I mentioned that your friends' lives could have been spared. At that point, you went silent for a while. It's obvious that they weren't given hydroxychloroquine + zinc or ivermectin.
And due to my medical background I have issues if people make some #$%^ comments on cures and etc, and especially when people downplay the seriousness of the issue.
As Ed already explained, it's not the effects of this virus being called scamdemic but it's what some politicians are doing about it that's a scam.
If I were still in the medical field, there could be a good chance that I would be in the middle of helping the Nay-Sayers, while they are laying in Intensive care, fighting for their life, while I am risking my own life to help them.
hydroxychloroquine + zinc or ivermectin would have brought down the fatality level by a big margin but some politicians decided to block the use of those despite the existing stats showing the high effectiveness of them against Covid-19 infection. How sick in the head are these politicians! >:(
Here are some stats I'm referring to:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/06/09/hydroxychloroquine-study-n2590700
https://news.yahoo.com/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-treatments-210300816.html